3 Investments Where I Lost All of My Money
Want to know a secret? Everyone makes mistakes during our investment journey. Sometimes we pay too much in fees because we didn’t know better, sometimes we try to time the market and it didn’t work, and sometimes we trust the wrong people and get sucked into some shady Ponzi scheme.
I made plenty of mistakes myself, like the many, many times I tried to time the market but it went on the opposite direction (WHEN WILL I LEARN?!?). But this article is NOT about those kinds of mistakes. I don’t mean losing money when the market is not in your favour. Fluctuations in price and value is normal and even expected for some types of investments, like properties, gold/precious metals, things like that.
This article is about the times where I lost ALL of the money in the investment. Here they are, compiled in one post.
#1 – Gold: Gold Bar
In my early 20s, circa 2010s, there was this gold rush, this gold craze. The price went up like crazy, and naturally it generated a ton of attention. I covered this in more detail in the What You Should Know About Gold Prices In 2008-2018 article.
At the time, I bought some e-gold from a bank (and made some profit there). But I also bought something else – a gold bar. From Lelong.com.my.
Physical gold is a type of investment, yes, but because I was young and stupid, I bought a gold-plated bar, which I now know is pretty much useless as an investment. At the time, I just thought I snapped a bargain. Again, I was young and stupid.
Plus, the gold bar never arrived too. I think it was a scam seller -_- Double bodo. It wasn’t a huge amount to lose, but I might as well throw that money away.
#2 – Forex: Copy-trade platform
Have you seen the forex trading advertisement using images like these?
The idea is you can use technical analysis to predict if the market is going up or down, enter a trade, and hopefully make a profit. Rather than investment, I’d say forex trading is more like a skill. Many people have lost a lot of money because they overestimated their trading skills.
I’ve kind of dabbled in forex trading, but never lost actual money… until I decided to try a copy-trade platform called 1Broker (US authorities have taken down the platform on October 2018).
How it works is (for this particular platform):
- You fund your account
- You copy someone else’s trading activities in the platform. When they enter a trade, you’ll automatically enter the same one as well.
- You make a profit/loss if they make a profit/loss
In June 2017, I transferred in an amount I could afford to lose into the account (if not mistaken, around $500). I didn’t want to lose that money you know. To ‘diversify’ and reduce my risks, I copied trades from at least 3 people who had high ratings. Each of them had over 50% ROI on their own trades. I also set small entry amounts – only $10 for each trade.
I thought it would be easy money. But in just two months, my account ran out of funds. I lost everything I deposited.
#3 – Cryptocurrencies: Waves & ZCoin
Broadly speaking, there are two types of crypto wallets: the one where you have complete control and ownership, and the one where the company acts as a custodian for your cryptocurrencies. Compare it like physical gold that you keep yourself in your own password-ed vault versus e-gold that banks keep for you.
To make long story short, I’ve done a classic newbie mistake and forgotten the seeds for two crypto wallets which I have complete ownership – my Waves and ZCoin wallets. The seeds are a bunch of random words or a long alphanumeric passkey. I can’t possibly reproduce and bantai the words to gain access.
Without the seeds, I can’t access my account. And if I can’t access my account, I can’t access those cryptocurrencies. Forever. Not even the developer team can help me.
I’m not sure how much I lost exactly, but at least $500 easily, as of current rates (and now crypto market is bear-ish, too!). To my defence, I thought I saved those seeds somewhere. Maybe someday I’ll discover I did actually write it down.
Note: I still love crypto as an investment. The rest of my cryptocurrencies are safe.
Lessons from losing money
Does it hurt? Hell yeah it does. It hurts not just my finances, but my ego as well. Each time it happens, I always go ‘you should have known better, you idiot‘.
Ah, the power of hindsight ay?
But you know what? I won’t cry over the lost money. I accept these losses and will consider them as expensive mistakes instead. No investment or financial course can teach me these valuable life lessons. In fact, I’m grateful they happened:
- I’m grateful that the amounts I lost were comparatively small. Some people have lost much more than I did
- I’m grateful that I still have time on my side to earn money and recover these losses
- I’m grateful that they made me super sceptical of new types of investments I come across
- I’m grateful that I get to write about them so that YOU don’t make the same mistakes I did
Going forward, these mistakes won’t deter me from trying out new types of investment platforms and financial services (that’s kinda my hobby). But I will be more selective of what I pick from now on.
Have you lost money at any point during your investing journey? Share in the comments section, so all of us can learn and ultimately be better investors together.
At the weight of luxury goods and watches craze in China, I bought stocks in a Hong Kong luxury watch company which went public on the Hang Seng.
Then along came Premier Xi Jing Ping (Emperor of China) who began cracking down on senior government officials wearing expensive watches which they would not have been able to afford on their official salaries.
Needless to say, the stocks tanked.
I Lost about RM 4000.00 and I swore off luxury goods stocks.
The take home lesson for me? Stick to REITS and Bank Shares
Thanks for sharing your experience, Lee Jun. Couldn’t have expected it
Invested in a so called start up… Initially said the lost will be capped at 30%… Then said got raided by police, the staff planted drugs in this premises etc etc…All money gone.. Lost about RM15K…..
Oh my goodness, how unfortunate (and dramatic!). Thanks so much for sharing here!
Thanks for sharing your investment boo-boos, Suraya. My worst one to date is prob the time I put RM20k into a foreign currency account (I think it was AUS$). The very next day, the 2007 financial crisis made it’s grand entrance and everything basically crashed.
The timing was just so tragic.
Long story short, I didn’t ‘lose’ my money because I I didn’t take it out of the account, but I didn’t gain much from it either. I basically made about RM500 over the 5 years I left it there. I would’ve been better off buying stocks on the cheap.
Ah well. Lesson learnt. How do you buy cryptos btw? I’m curious, but have no clue where to get started here in Malaysia.
Oh my god, that is horrible timing, I am so sorry. The very next day, too! I’m glad it at least recovered, and a little bit of gain is better than no gain!
Re: cryptocurrencies – you can find out more here: http://ringgitohringgit.com/invest-cryptocurrency-malaysia Don’t put an amount you can’t afford to lose!
Thanks Suraya! I’m glad I got out of it relatively unscathed too. And thanks for the great article on cryptocurrencies 🙂
Su, get a hardware wallet like Nano Ledger S. That will safe you. 🙂
I do have a Ledger Nano S – most of my other crypto is stored in there 🙂 Not sure about now, but last time they don’t have support for Waves and Zcoin!
Lost money in Gold (Pegasus) and Oil (Capital Asia). Total 50k. Lesson learnt, never trust any investment that sounds to good to be true. Anything more than guaranteed 10% return is bullshit!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience here! Hope all is well with the rest of your investments
RM100k in gold sold n promoted by a state government agency. Painful doesn’t begin to describe it.
OMFG ouch I am so sorry. Which company was this?
I opened a boutique in a shopping mall in KL, and within 7 years lost all my investments as the overheads kept going up especially the exorbitant rentals at shopping malls. Plus I didn’t have the necessary skills to handle everything by myself and couldn’t get any partners in to finance the designing, manufacturing, retailing and wholesaling parts. The business idea was great at the time when the market needed such a trendy line of clothing for pregnant moms but I couldn’t sustain it. I have since cringed whenever someone asks me if they should start a retail brick and mortar business.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience here. It’s okay, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger 🙂
Almost 18 years ago, fresh out of college, i used my first transaction on my first credit card to purchase membership at a pyramid scheme. I was at their event and really believed the returns promised. They flashed all their successful members and I wasn’t aware it was a ponzi scheme at the time.
Lost RM1.2K but a very good lesson learnt indeed.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Ginakhurana. It may suck during the time but I believe you came out loads wiser
When I first dabbled into stocks in my rarly twenties, a friend recommended me to Westmint Industries Bhd. It was an upcoming stock and I was very excited about it. Being a novice in investing I decided to invest all my life-saving, about RM28k in all, into it, hoping to make it big the first time. I trusted my friend and though was advised by other friend not to put all eggs into one basket, I ignored the advice as I already dreamt that luck would be on my side. Soon I was to learnt the most painful mistake in life. The auditors detected irregularities in the company accounts. The company was in fact in financial troubles and went into PN17. Later they restuctured and it became Ramunia. Things did not change for the better. They had to restructure it again and it became THHE. The shares were obviously losing value and in the end I sold them for RM20+.From RM20k+ to a mere RM20+ I realy cried a river and vowed to diversify my investment to prevent another castatrophic loss lije this.
Wow, thanks for sharing your experience Patrick. I really want to console you but in matters like these, nothing we can do but move on 🙁
Thanks for sharing those mistakes, Mine was thankfully a minor one but I’ll share it anyway.
So I’ve been learning about investment from my teacher who is Ahmad Asri, he is actually great and really thoughtfull. He opened up my eyes on all the possibilities of investment. And he actually teach us to just invest in Islamic complianced company which is why I’m attracted to his teaching.
After I take his courses, I begin interested in other ways of making money. Then my friend invited me to a ‘meeting’. Said it was a business opportunity. Being a ‘tanam anggur’ kinda fellow I decided “oh what the heck, I’ll see what it’s about” type of mindset. Then I became intrigued. But at the same time I was being skeptical. Decided to join anyway. Turns out its a multi level marketing business. Which is fine if not the fact that it feels like peddling shit for a speck of golds. I’ve lost about 400 ringgit in there just by signing up. Almost lost another 3000 until my mom talk me out of it. That 400 is spent on a stupid and thoughtfull mistake.
Should’ve spent it on my Trust fund instead or the market. Stupid me.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Don’t beat yourself too hard over it, mistakes happen, just dust it off and continue on!
Now go say thanks to Mom for snapping you out of it lol.
I also lost most of my savings in Forex copy trade and signal service, crypto cloud mining.
those forex copy-trade platforms makes it sound like you’re guaranteed to make money, don’t they 🙂
Invest 70% of my savings in Bitcoin on May 2019. When Litecoin pumped, I converted my Bitcoin to 50/50 Bitcoin and Litecoin. Then Litecoin’s value dropped tremendously. In order to recover my losses, I took out all my cryptos from Hardware ledger to Binance to trade. That’s the worst decision I ever made. I bought high sold low. I lost almost 80%. After that, I started to learn crypto trading and join paid groups. Slowly to recover.. Think long term and patience.. Hard lesson learned..
This is a serious question – why are you still trading?
I learned a lot in this loss. I started to study cryptos and blockchain. (Hope I can work in a blockchain industry in the future). I learned about buy at support, sell at resistance. And look at the bullish/bearish divergence and other Technical Analysis. It’s not easy.. I only gain 5% profits or sometimes could be higher. Now my winning rate is higher than losing rate, slowly to recover. There’s a saying: “Where you fall, where you stand up” 🙂
I lost apx rm15K in stock market. Try to be a short term trader. Now aim for long term. I just buy stock from big player and keep them as an investment and wait for dividend.
Lost RM30K tried to run a business. Now back to office, climbing the corporate ladder again.
Still looking for the best and safe way to invest. 🙂
Thanks for sharing, Nini. You tried, and you learned. There will be more chances
could you share your opinion on whether anything that promises 50% return over a period of 2-4 months (not a business, but a literal investment ) is too good to be true?
I’ve replied you privately, but also to be clear to everyone: the word ‘promise’ in any* investment claim is A HUGE RED FLAG. Avoid avoid avoid
*except for fixed deposits and govt bonds